http://faireapprovablecostume.tribe.net/thread/955d6fd1-2fa4-4444-b782-57bfbff74aad?format=rss Tribe.net. Local Connections http://faireapprovablecostume.tribe.net/thread/955d6fd1-2fa4-4444-b782-57bfbff74aad#db9d6760-9ef8-4352-8cf0-45672f11e6d7 Rydell is the neckwear guru. He knows his stuff! Wed, 06 May 2009 05:33:45 GMT http://faireapprovablecostume.tribe.net/thread/955d6fd1-2fa4-4444-b782-57bfbff74aad#db9d6760-9ef8-4352-8cf0-45672f11e6d7 Carrie 2009-05-06T05:33:45Z http://faireapprovablecostume.tribe.net/thread/955d6fd1-2fa4-4444-b782-57bfbff74aad#b2ddb27e-6a23-478e-9425-57ed36eb6f05 "I have seen more than a handful of different presentations of the longer Ties." Yup, but the knots remain the same. Some of the crazy regency/romantic presentations (as in "Neckclothitania") are just variations on what to do with the leftover fabric. http://people.tribe.net/rydell/photos/4c364e9c-8382-46d5-8d63-94456d120cb7 Most of these are plastron knots and the rest are just passing one end over or under another. http://www.teja.fi/pukeutuminen/solmiot_tiedostot/plastron.gif There are better diagrams, but I can't find any right now. Tue, 05 May 2009 20:41:08 GMT http://faireapprovablecostume.tribe.net/thread/955d6fd1-2fa4-4444-b782-57bfbff74aad#b2ddb27e-6a23-478e-9425-57ed36eb6f05 Rydell 2009-05-05T20:41:08Z http://faireapprovablecostume.tribe.net/thread/955d6fd1-2fa4-4444-b782-57bfbff74aad#30a666d2-dd69-4623-ae24-577f501a523d ""Bow Ties are a much later time period than Dickens." Really? " I stand corrected... I must be thinking of the fact that I was shown a lot of those ties to be long enough to go front to back and possibly once again around the neck before you could even consider starting on the Bow. but I have seen more than a handful of different presentations of the longer Ties. Tue, 05 May 2009 20:16:36 GMT http://faireapprovablecostume.tribe.net/thread/955d6fd1-2fa4-4444-b782-57bfbff74aad#30a666d2-dd69-4623-ae24-577f501a523d Cheshire 2009-05-05T20:16:36Z http://faireapprovablecostume.tribe.net/thread/955d6fd1-2fa4-4444-b782-57bfbff74aad#94af5d6c-6279-4d90-a17c-221a858854ca A Theatrical Person! Tue, 05 May 2009 18:50:33 GMT http://faireapprovablecostume.tribe.net/thread/955d6fd1-2fa4-4444-b782-57bfbff74aad#94af5d6c-6279-4d90-a17c-221a858854ca Rydell 2009-05-05T18:50:33Z http://faireapprovablecostume.tribe.net/thread/955d6fd1-2fa4-4444-b782-57bfbff74aad#a79c4086-9033-40d7-bf64-a193b114322d I liked the fancy dress in the first one - wheeee! Tue, 05 May 2009 18:49:44 GMT http://faireapprovablecostume.tribe.net/thread/955d6fd1-2fa4-4444-b782-57bfbff74aad#a79c4086-9033-40d7-bf64-a193b114322d ThalassaTherese 2009-05-05T18:49:44Z http://faireapprovablecostume.tribe.net/thread/955d6fd1-2fa4-4444-b782-57bfbff74aad#63fadf32-65e8-43b2-893e-53fcdf9e5e25 "Bow Ties are a much later time period than Dickens." Really? http://faireapprovablecostume.tribe.net/photos/5fab9b35-559c-44a9-af83-1b57b4e26334 http://faireapprovablecostume.tribe.net/photos/c6c72cc8-15cf-4b1c-b5cc-fe177200a05d http://faireapprovablecostume.tribe.net/photos/bc594628-79d4-4300-afe7-4791db096f85 http://faireapprovablecostume.tribe.net/photos/9990b7c1-9fa1-4e5e-b815-82da95df2f63 http://faireapprovablecostume.tribe.net/photos/eb19f141-5c68-4a7b-8e29-4b5a7d271e12 http://faireapprovablecostume.tribe.net/photos/1e8edb4c-18f6-497b-ba1b-86e72758d9c5 http://faireapprovablecostume.tribe.net/photos/823316c6-075a-4cbf-b98b-22e97cec510f Tue, 05 May 2009 18:09:12 GMT http://faireapprovablecostume.tribe.net/thread/955d6fd1-2fa4-4444-b782-57bfbff74aad#63fadf32-65e8-43b2-893e-53fcdf9e5e25 Rydell 2009-05-05T18:09:12Z http://faireapprovablecostume.tribe.net/thread/955d6fd1-2fa4-4444-b782-57bfbff74aad#405e893e-080d-4be1-98fb-db52e8b5e7f6 The knot is exactly the same. There are only three knots one might need to know: The bow (presented here), the plastron (ascot) and the four-in-hand (what we know as the Windsor). The difference is in the size and shape of the fabric itself and the disposition of the remaining ends Tue, 05 May 2009 18:04:38 GMT http://faireapprovablecostume.tribe.net/thread/955d6fd1-2fa4-4444-b782-57bfbff74aad#405e893e-080d-4be1-98fb-db52e8b5e7f6 Rydell 2009-05-05T18:04:38Z http://faireapprovablecostume.tribe.net/thread/955d6fd1-2fa4-4444-b782-57bfbff74aad#3b438774-4e6c-4cf5-9518-34828bdc3af0 but how do you untie them? or what about a Victorian Cravat, since Bow Ties are a much later time period than Dickens. Yes, the Haberdashery has booklets on several various styles and ways of tying them. I know, I've sold them. But the video was nice. Tue, 05 May 2009 16:08:53 GMT http://faireapprovablecostume.tribe.net/thread/955d6fd1-2fa4-4444-b782-57bfbff74aad#3b438774-4e6c-4cf5-9518-34828bdc3af0 Cheshire 2009-05-05T16:08:53Z http://faireapprovablecostume.tribe.net/thread/955d6fd1-2fa4-4444-b782-57bfbff74aad#8e6a6060-994e-4df3-9dcc-49db604e58dd That was refreshing! Tue, 05 May 2009 13:31:19 GMT http://faireapprovablecostume.tribe.net/thread/955d6fd1-2fa4-4444-b782-57bfbff74aad#8e6a6060-994e-4df3-9dcc-49db604e58dd Michael 2009-05-05T13:31:19Z http://faireapprovablecostume.tribe.net/thread/955d6fd1-2fa4-4444-b782-57bfbff74aad#41647880-a676-41c3-ac16-29602c5218d1 It's just that easy...beautiful : ) (non-facebooky linky) http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-216855 Tue, 05 May 2009 05:15:18 GMT http://faireapprovablecostume.tribe.net/thread/955d6fd1-2fa4-4444-b782-57bfbff74aad#41647880-a676-41c3-ac16-29602c5218d1 : Denisey, Cork Popper 2009-05-05T05:15:18Z http://faireapprovablecostume.tribe.net/thread/955d6fd1-2fa4-4444-b782-57bfbff74aad#3ec61cac-df42-4658-bcb4-3d1b53e22cef http://www.facebook.com/ext/share.php?sid=52947167181&h=kSIw0&u=_unou Tue, 05 May 2009 00:17:11 GMT http://faireapprovablecostume.tribe.net/thread/955d6fd1-2fa4-4444-b782-57bfbff74aad#3ec61cac-df42-4658-bcb4-3d1b53e22cef Rydell 2009-05-05T00:17:11Z